HMP 12:43 Sat Nov 28
Erdogan
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Seems like only Russia n France genuinely fighting IS - Obama a peace lover and has no guts for it. Brits or Germans pissing about.
This Erdogan geezer is a big ISIS fan. Violently suppressing any criticism in his own country.
Unless someone from the Western powers starts standing up to this shit then WW3 beckons
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On The Ball
1:15 Sat Nov 28
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Shame there was nowhere else this could have gone.
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HairyHammer
1:21 Sat Nov 28
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HMP
That is a very Naive way to look at it, as much as I dislike Erdogan and his dictator style let us not forget that a few years ago everyone was supporting ISIS but without knowing who they were or what they were about to become, America GB Turkey etc etc .
Turkey now are being made to look as if they are on their own and the sole supporter of terrorism , well I guess that' s what happens when you are the closest to the situation and are given pats on the back and even told to help Assads fall, and then everyone goes quiet and the only one helping is Turkey.
It was all good a year or so ago until we found out that the best fighters to bring Assad down were crazy Islamic loones well they were hardly going to be Syrian Tree huggers were they.
What is 100% is that Erdogan has to pull away from them, but how do you do that when Turkey is now full of crazed evil Jihadis welcomed in as freedom fighters who are prepared to die for there cause and will even be prepared to destroy Turkey to do it .
Erdogan has made his bed that is for sure his route was always to create an Islamic Turkey he is now paying the price, but he was not alone when it comes to wanting Assad gone nor was he alone in creating Isis.
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yogib
3:27 Sat Nov 28
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The Turks are mostly moderate and the 50+ a tad literate and unschooled over there - The western allies created Al Qaeda and ISIS in an indirect way, possibly on purpose and naively - as has been said many times on here...be careful what you wish for!!!!!
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Ronald_antly
6:26 Sat Nov 28
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HMP wrote...
"Seems like only Russia n France genuinely fighting IS - Obama a peace lover and has no guts for it."
Actually, it's just Russia.
As for Obama being a "peace lover", OH DEAR!
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WHOicidal Maniac
10:52 Sat Nov 28
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Why the fuck do we need to get involved?
Isis are fighting on 4 fronts and losing in at least three of them.
I know we are all shitting ourselves from terrorist threat but Isis as an army are getting done over, other than in Iraq.
The problem is not with Isis but the next group who become Isis, and then the one after that and after that and no amount of western intervention will make that any better....
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mentor
11:01 Sat Nov 28
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One thing I learnt in Germany. You can't trust the Turks.
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1964
11:02 Sat Nov 28
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Just let them get on with it but sort out the nut jobs and dress and burka wearing wierdo's here.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:04 Sat Nov 28
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1964 11:02 Sat Nov 28
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Why should we stop people wearing what they want?
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mentor
11:07 Sat Nov 28
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You won't ever see the burka maniac. You and pickle are in the same boat. Its got fuck all to do with you. That is all.
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terry-h
11:08 Sat Nov 28
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I agree 1964. We should save money on the bombing and concentrate on the enemy within, taking care to control our borders more efficiently.
I see that shit Choudhary is back behind bars for breaking the terms of his bail. A lot more of them should be arrested for their activities.
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1964
11:09 Sat Nov 28
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Weird clothes = Weird unstable minds
I'm going out in just stockings and suspenders later, do you think thats normal?
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:14 Sat Nov 28
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mentor 11:07 Sat Nov 28
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Yes you are right Mentor, I have never ever ever stumbled across a Muslim ever here in Cornwall, in fact I consider it a day of note if I see a black man..
All day long all I see are Farmers dressed in jeans and wellie boots crunching carrots and chasing sheep.
1964.
You wear what you like mate, I wont judge you. just be kind and genuine to everyone you meet and I will support your right to do what ever you like.
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1964
11:20 Sat Nov 28
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"Farmers dressed in jeans and wellie boots crunching carrots and chasing sheep"
That's only normal in Wales
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,
11:22 Sat Nov 28
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What about fishermen, see any of those?
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:31 Sat Nov 28
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, 11:22 Sat Nov 28
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What about fishermen, see any of those?
Only if I go down the coast and see them fishing, otherwise they cleverly disguise themselves as regular people...
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Hammer and Pickle
11:31 Sat Nov 28
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I'll dig up those figures of the money going from the Federal Russian Budget to the Caucuses some time.
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Oliver Cromwell
11:33 Sat Nov 28
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Turks a horrible race of people
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1964
11:33 Sat Nov 28
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Fishermen?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12021743/Fishermen-should-be-fishers-to-be-gender-neutral-says-vegan-shadow-environment-secretary-Kerry-McCarthy.html
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mentor
11:34 Sat Nov 28
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Ah...'regular people'. As opposed to offensive looking, down trodden, security risk things in burkas, then.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:38 Sat Nov 28
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mentor 11:34 Sat Nov 28
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Ah...'regular people'. As opposed to offensive looking, down trodden, security risk things in burkas, then.
They are regular people too Mentor. I dont find the Burka offensive, any more so than a woman who wraps a scarf around her face on a cold day.
They are not necessarily down trodden, they might like it.
Security threat, I can see that from the same point as people who wear Motorbike helmets in banks and such...Is that the kind of security threat you are thinking of?
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